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China Matters II

Over on China Spend Matters, Jason has just completed his second 27-part PBS-like Series on the ins and outs of China Sourcing – which I’m sure will immediately be followed by his third 27-Part PBS-like Series on the lessons learned upon further reflection from being on-the-ground in China. However, in the interim, as I did last time, I’ve indexed all of the posts for you so that you can catch up if you’ve missed any!

From talent management to executive suicide, trucking to rail, and toys to potatoes, this series has it all! Explore the controversy and get a broad perspective from one of the only bloggers that goes direct to the source to get inside the Chinese quality mindset. And when the future ain’t what it used to be, why not dive in to the one blog that knows, when you’re in a Chinese court, you got plagiarism!

So, in its bloggin’ brilliance, here is the second 27-part* PBS-like second series on the ins and outs of China sourcing, including five dispatches Live From China:

    • Suicide: The Cost of Poor Quality? by Jason Busch, August 13, 2007
    • Tips From the Trenches: Managing Talent in China by Jason Busch, August 14, 2007
    • AMR’s Perspective — China: To Source, Or Not to Source by Jason Busch, August 16, 2007
    • Mattel and China: Why Supplier Performance Management Matters by Jason Busch, August 17, 2007
    • China Quality Concerns: Are US Importers at Fault? by Jason Busch, August 17, 2007
    • Spend China Matters by Jason Busch, August 22, 2007
    • China: Investing in Inland Infrastructure by Jason Busch, August 23, 2007
    • Print no Evil by Jason Busch, August 23, 2007
    • Will Chinese and Japanese Auto Parts Suppliers Rush into North America? by Jason Busch, August 27, 2007
    • China Goes Organic (Well, Sort Of) by Jason Busch, August 30, 2007
    • Getting Into the Chinese Product Quality Mindset by Jason Busch, August 30, 2007
    • China: US Potatoes Aren’t Good Enough For US by Jason Busch, September 6, 2007
    • Understanding the Chinese Overland Evolution by Jason Busch, September 13, 2007
    • Spend Matters: Live from China by Jason Busch, September 14, 2007
    • Will China’s Rail Plans Save the Logistics Day? by Jason Busch, September 14, 2007
    • A New Type of Copyright Violation in China: Testimony at Trial by Jason Busch, September 18, 2007
    • My China Trip: The Questions I Plan to Tackle by Jason Busch, September 19, 2007
    • Rethinking Talent Management in China — In China and Beyond by Jason Busch, September 20, 2007
    • What do MSG, Noodles and Price Fixing have to do With Inflation in China? by Jason Busch, September 24, 2007
    • Spend Matters: Live From China (First Dispatch) by Jason Busch, September 25, 2007
    • What Makes China Different? by Jason Busch, September 26, 2007
    • Spend Matters: Live From China (Second Dispatch) by Jason Busch, September 27, 2007
    • Another Sign of a Brewing Economic Monetary Crisis in China? by Jason Busch, September 28, 2007
    • Spend Matters: Live From China (Third Dispatch) by Jason Busch, September, 2007
    • Mattel: We Need You, China by Jason Busch, October 2, 2007
    • Spend Matters: Live From China (Fourth Dispatch) by Jason Busch, October 3, 2007
    • Spend Matters: Live From China (Fifth Dispatch) by Jason Busch, October 3, 2007

      * All posts prior to 2012 were removed in the Spend Matters site refresh in June, 2023.

China Matters

Over on China Matters, Jason just completed his initial 27-part PBS-like Series on the hazards of China Sourcing* – which is certainly to be followed by the 27-Part PBS-like Series on the benefits of sourcing in the new China – but in the interim, I’d highly recommend you take this opportunity to catch up if you’ve missed any!

From hot-crossed Beijing Buns to the Turning-Aside of Thomas to the Perils Posed to Paris’ Poodle, this series has it all. Explore the controversy and get the full perspective in a series that even has a little hex-in it. And when the future ain’t what it used to be, why not dive in to the one place that knows you got ‘VAT!

So, in its bloggin’ brilliance, here is the 27 part PBS-like series* on the Hazards of China Sourcing:

  • Full Spend Matters Coverage: The China Sourcing Controversy by Jason Busch on July 5
  • Paris Hilton’s Dog Dead Due to Pet Food From China!!!! by Tony Poshek on July 5
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 1) by Lisa Reisman on July 6
  • China Sourcing: You Got ‘VAT? by Jason Busch on July 6
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 2) by Stuart Burns on July 6
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 3) by AJ Sweatt on July 6
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 4) by James Jin on July 6
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 5) by Jason Busch, Pat Furey, and David Morgenstern on July 9
  • Anti-China Propaganda Canada Style by Jason Busch on July 10
  • A Last Minute Webinar: What’s Really Going on in China by Jason Busch on July 11
  • MFGx — The China Debate by Jason Busch on July 12
  • Certified 100% China Free by Jason Busch on July 16
  • Steamed Corrugated — A Peking Delicacy? by Jason Busch on July 16
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 6) by Paul Martyn on July 17
  • Supply Now Edition 6: Outsourcing, Chinese Product Safety, and Beyond … by Jason Busch on July 17
  • Hot Crossed Beijing Buns? by Jason Busch
  • Daddy, Where’s Thomas? by Jason Busch on July 24
  • Food Safety Concerns: China’s Not the Main Problem by Jason Busch on July 26
  • Putting a Hex on Quality: In China and Beyond by Jason Busch on July 27
  • China Sourcing: The Wholesale / Distributor Perspective
  • Factory Witch Hunts in China! by Jason Busch on August 1
  • If You’re Involved in China Sourcing, Don’t Miss This Webinar by Jason Busch on August 2
  • Can Global Recycling Lead to Flashy Lead Poisoning? by Jason Busch on August 6
  • China Sourcing VAT Changes: A Complete Translated List by Jason Busch on August 9
  • Buick: Crap or Crème De La Crème? by Jason Busch on August 10
  • The Chinese Product Police: Keeping Bedrooms Safe Around the World … by Jason Busch on August 1
  • Global Sourcing: Follow the Leader, Not the Headlines by Jason Busch on August 10

    * All posts prior to 2012 were removed in the Spend Matters site refresh in June, 2023.

Surviving China’s Rapidly Changing Sourcing Tides: Part II

In my first post, I summarized some of the fascinating insights to come out of MFG.com‘s James Jin and Mitch Free on the current hullaballoo about China, and the recent VAT rebate reductions and cancellations in particular. In this post, I’m going to discuss some of the great tips that were provided by Lisa Reisman of Aptium Global (now of MetalMiner) on how to properly assess and manage not only your China Sourcing, but low cost country sourcing projects in general.

Lisa Reisman started by explaining that a number of different factors impacted your China price. These factors, most of which are common to most Low-Cost Country Sourcing Destinations, include:

  • raw material costs
  • value-add services
  • currency fluctuations and exchange rates
  • export tariffs
  • VAT and rebate rates
  • packaging costs
  • inland freight costs
  • outbound ocean freight and air freight costs

The current situation with China is that multiple cost elements are increasing at the same time: raw material costs are consistently rising (as China consumes more and more raw materials for its own uses), exchange rates are falling with the weakening US dollar, China is under pressure to increase the value of its currency – further decreasing the favorable exchange US business are used to, and the VAT has been slashed or removed on over 37% of the total classifications.

The degree to which you are impacted ultimately depends on what savings percentage you are currently getting on the products you are sourcing, whether it’s in the low 10% range, the medium 10% to 20% range, or the high 20% + range, and whether or not the products you are buying are value-add. If you’re in the high savings range, chances are you’re not going to be impacted much, if at all, by the recent VAT rebate reductions and eliminations and don’t have much to worry about. The same holds true if you are in the medium savings range and are sourcing value-add products, which were not impacted by the recent cuts since China is trying to push those exports. But if you were in the low-savings range (which made sourcing to China a questionable decision in the first place), and especially if you were buying products with little or no value-add, chances are that you have been impacted by the recent VAT rebate reductions and eliminations, since those products with minimal value-add and those products very near to a raw material state have been hardest hit and, recently, have provided low savings opportunities.

What should you do? The first thing you should do is assess the impact of the recent changes (VAT rebate reductions and eliminations, rising material prices, weakened exchange rate) on your total landed cost, and, if necessary, your total cost of ownership. If the impact is significant, or significant enough to reduce your savings to the low end of the spectrum, then you need to consider reducing your risk by identifying other alternate sources of supply, including domestic sources and nearby sources. If global is the way to go, start thinking about Vietnam and India. It might also be time to start considering Mexico and Latin American sources of supply again.

If you’ve been moderately hit, for example, instead of saving over 20%, you’re now saving only 10% to 15%, then, if you’re buying from a trading company or importer, and your volume is significant enough, it might be time to consider a direct relationship or a new source of supply in China that would allow you to take advantage of a direct relationship.

Basically, if you’re sourcing those products that are a good fit for LCCS, you might be okay, but you should still review your landed cost model. In general, a product is a “good fit” for LCCS if there is significant volume, the product can be made with (a mix of) unskilled and / or semi-skilled labor, production is regular and repetitive, technology sophistication can be leveraged, there are infrequent design and tool changes, the IP is not highly sensitive, the content is mostly (available) raw materials, JIT delivery is not required, and quality requirements are not unduly high.

And when you’re considering sourcing from China in particular, you need to take the following considerations into account:

  • China public policy is a form of political risk (tariffs, duties, rebates, etc.)
  • Currency risks need to be considered (weakening US dollar, increasing pressure on China to raise the value of the Yuan)
  • Security risk
  • Supplier Capabilities (especially on the quality side – some are great, but as the recent recall scares in North America have proven, some are not)
  • Shipping & Logistics Costs (especially from inland suppliers)
  • Supplier Stability & Volatility (some suppliers are hit hard by the recent VAT rebate reductions and eliminations)

Lisa’s analysis and advice concluded with the following:

  • If you don’t have a detailed TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) model, which includes a detailed landed cost model, develop one.
  • Consider dual-source vs. sole source strategies – especially for low(er) cost categories.
  • Near-shoring (e.g. Mexico) is another viable option and can help ensure steady supply.
  • Supplier identification and qualification remain key activities – consider this carefully when looking at new countries.
  • Don’t let the hullabaloo get to you and rush to leave China. If your parts are (high) value add, you could still be doing quite well. Update your total cost model and price alternatives first before making hasty decisions. Remember the findings of the MFG.com survey we summarized in our last post, only 26% of IPO’s (International Purchasing Organizations) are expecting purchase prices to increase by over 5% and only 18% of suppliers are expecting to need to increase purchase prices by over 5% as a result of the current VAT rebate reductions and eliminations.

Note that Lisa also participated in Spend MattersThe China Sourcing Controversy series with her post “Has the China Balloon Popped?”*, wrote a guest post on Maximizing the Savings Potential of Global Sourcing Strategies back in April here on Sourcing Innovation, and also wrote a post on Quantifying Quality in Lean Sourcing Initiatives back in January here on Sourcing Innovation that also has some relevance.

Finally, as I mentioned in my last post, MFG.com is launching a learning center on the issue this week that will include an archived version of the webinar, additional information on the recent MFG.com poll, questions and answers to all webinar questions (including the many that they didn’t get to), and a slew of executive briefs on the relative issues with more to come as time goes on.

* All posts prior to 2012 were removed in the Spend Matters site refresh in June, 2023.

Surviving China’s Rapidly Changing Sourcing Tides: Part I

About an hour ago, the webinar by the same name, hosted by MFG.com and Aptium Global, and moderated by none other than Spend Matters own Jason Busch, wrapped up. This webinar had some fascinating insights into the current state of China sourcing, which has many people in a frenzy due to the massive VAT rebate changes that went into affect on July 1.

The current hullabaloo is due to the fact that on July 1, China cancelled VAT rebates on approximately 553 products, reduce the VAT rebates on approximately 2,268 products, and only exempted VAT charges on about 10 products. In other words, about 37% of the total classifications have had the VAT rebates slashed or eliminated. The VAT rebates were created in the 90’s at a time when exports were low to support growth in the export economy. However, now that there is a huge trade surplus with many trading nations, especially with the US ( to the order of 14 B ) China apparently wants to rectify the situation. Typically, Chinese companies are supposed to pay 17% VAT when they sell a product. Until recently, the VAT rebates drastically reduced (or eliminated) this tax on exports – but now that they are being eliminated, some products could end up costing you 17% more.

According to James Jin, the head of the MFG.com Shanghai office, the purpose of the VAT Refund Change is to reduce the trade surplus, eliminate high energy consuming & resource intensive exports, avoid products triggering trade functions, and give China more spending power. As a result, there are will be increased export prices on lower value add products such as fasteners, extrusions, etc; serious financial pressures on Small and Medium enterprises in China with low margins, especially going through trading agents, and some of them will likely go out of business; and increased opportunities for imports into a growing, and opening, Chinese markets. In the short term, the rebates cause quite a panic among those suppliers being negatively impacted who caused major traffic jams during the last through days of June trying to get their products out of the country before the VAT changes came into affect.

However, according to a recent survey conducted by the MFG.com China team, it looks like things aren’t all that bad. The Shanghai office conducted a poll of IPO (International Purchasing Organization) buyers on July 6 and received the following answers to the six questions presented:

  • What is the impact of the VAT reduction on your purchasing?
    Significant: 16%; Some 37%; Insignificant: 21%;
  • How much is the overall estimated purchase price increase?
    >5%: 26%; 3-5%: 11%; 0-3%: 21%;
  • How does material cost increase impact your China sourcing?
    Significant: 26%; Some: 26%; Insignificant: 32%;
  • What is the estimated price increase due to China material cost increases?
    > 5%: 22%; 2-5%: 33%; 0-2%: 17%;
  • What is your solution to the risk of increasing cost?
    Share Risks with Suppliers: 33%; Re-source in China: 22%;
    Switch to other Low Cost Countries: 19%; Maintain Pricing: 15%;
    Other: 11%;
  • What is your predicted sourcing trend for China in the long run?
    Increase: 79%; Decrease 11%; Unchanged: 5%;

In other-words, despite the fact that 53% of IPO respondents expect the VAT reductions to have some (negative) pricing impacts, with 37% expecting those price increases to be at least 3%, and despite the fact that 52% of IPO respondents expect material cost increases to also have (negative) pricing impacts, with 55% expecting those pricing increases to be at least 3%, 79% of respondents still expect to increase their China sourcing, with 55% planning to do so either by sharing risks with suppliers or re-sourcing to other in-country supply sources.

The MFG.com Shanghai office also polled the Chinese suppliers and found the following:

  • How does the VAT refund reduction impact your exports?
    Significant: 6%; Some: 29%; Insignificant: 29%; Not at all: 36%
  • How much of a price increase is likely to result from the VAT refund reductions?
    >5%: 18%; 2-5%: 12%; 0-2%: 0%; Not Sure: 18%; 0% – 52%
  • How are China material costs impacting exports?
    Significant: 32%; Some: 18%; Insignificant: 28%; Not at all: 18%; Unsure: 4%
  • What price increases could result from material costs??
    >5%: 14%; 2-5%: 30%; 0-2%: 5% 0%: 41%; Not Sure: 10%
  • How do the export cost increases impact competitiveness for the North American / European markets?
    Significant: 26%; Some: 11%; Insignificant: 32%; Not at all: 26%; Unsure: 5%;
  • If impacted, what is the solution? ?
    Increase Price: 43%; New Customers: 19%; Reduce Costs: 15%;
    Change Products: 4%; Other: 19%

In summary, 35% of responding suppliers believe that the VAT will impact their exports, with 30% expecting at least a 2% increase, but I’d suspect they are still more worried about material costs with 50% expecting material costs to have a (negative) impact on exports and 44% expecting the associated price increase to be at least 2%. Fortunately, only 37% believe their competitiveness will be affected and 57% are going to look for solutions that do not involve increasing price.

But, as pointed out by James, what is really important to note is that, despite the recent smear campaign (and despite the fact that since 2005, 431 Chinese-made goods have been recalled in Canada alone), many China suppliers consistently perform well and to high quality standards. For instance, MFG.com tracks ratings of all its suppliers, and 92% of China suppliers receive high or perfect ratings on quality, 96% of China suppliers receive good or excellent ratings on responsiveness, and 90% consistently deliver early or on time, giving them a rating of very good or excellent 72% of the time, and good or better 92% of the time. In other words, the vast majority care about the products they make and will work with you to correct any issues – but you have to manage them as you would your own plant and make sure quality materials, processes, and systems are being used.

Furthermore, as Mitch Free, founder of MFG.com, pointed out, the recent changes, despite the fact that they are a big deal and will continue to be a big deal, are not all bad news. First of all, they present an interesting opportunity for American Suppliers to bet aggressive and start to bring business back home. They will need to employ advanced technologies and a great strategy to do this, but that’s not a bad thing. Furthermore, he also points out that this will force Chinese suppliers to elevate to a higher level of technology to compete, especially on lower value-add products, and this is good for everyone! Mitch, in responding to a listener question, also pointed out that a higher-value finished goods economy, like the one that matured in Japan and Korea is undeniably coming, but that the question is, as always, when. Due to China’s sheer size, it’s likely to take a long time. It’s also up to the government, who appears to be in total control of their market with their power to control exports, give and take VAT rebates, alter the value of their currency, etc.

This was a great webinar, and Lisa Reisman also had some great insights on how to properly assess and manage your China sourcing and low-cost country sourcing in general, but that’s the subject of my next post.

In the mean time, I’d like to point out, as re-iterated many times by moderator Jason Busch, that MFG.com is launching a learning center next week to address all of the issues with China sourcing at http://www.mfg.com/chinasourcing and that this will include an archived version of the webinar, additional information on the recent MFG.com poll, questions and answers to all webinar questions (including the many that they didn’t get to), and a slew of executive briefs on the relative issues with more to come as time goes on.

Until the MFG.com learning center goes on-line, you can read and re-read the Spend Matter’s* series on the subject in these posts:

  • Full Spend Matters Coverage: The China Sourcing Controversy by Jason Busch on July 5
  • Paris Hilton’s Dog Dead Due to Pet Food From China!!!! by Tony Poshek on July 5
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 1) by Lisa Reisman on July 6
  • China Sourcing: You Got ‘VAT? by Jason Busch on July 6
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 2) by Stuart Burns on July 6
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 3) by AJ Sweatt on July 6
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 4) by James Jin on July 6
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 5) by Jason Busch, Pat Furey, and David Morgenstern on July 9
  • China Sourcing: The Future Ain’t What it Used to Be (Post 6) by Paul Martyn on July 17
  • Anti-China Propaganda Canada Style by Jason Busch on July 10
  • A Last Minute Webinar: What’s Really Going on in China by Jason Busch on July 11
  • MFGx — The China Debate by Jason Busch on July 12

* All posts prior to 2012 were removed in the Spend Matters site refresh in June, 2023.

The Cynical Sorcerer Comes Out of His Shell

Perhaps not yet ready to stop celebrating US independence, the elusive Tony Poshek, the inventor of The Puddy Principle to Strategic Sourcing, and our very own Cynical Sorcer(er), has decided to stop throwing us bloggers scraps and yesterday, for the first time, offered us a glimpse into the mind of the manic marauder with his inaugural post on Spend Matters (Paris Hiltons dog dead due to pet food from China*) that lamented the cruel fate that may yet befall the Paris’ Pup.

The post, which lamented the recent run of bad luck to befall our eastern exchange partner, whose citizens have apparently just discovered Weird Al’s 1985 hit Dare to Be Stupid and decided to add a verse or two of their own:

Put down your Mobal and listen to me
It’s time for us to join in the trade
It’s time to let our babies to grow up to be cowboys
It’s time to remove the blockade

It’s time to make diethylene glycol toothpaste
It’s time to paint our toy trains with lead
It’s time to lace pet food with melamine
It’s time to leave the gum out of the tread …

points out that as simultaneously entertaining and terrifying as the referenced stories are, the most interesting ones are the smaller stories that deal with consumers actually trying to boycott products from China, such as How one woman said ‘No’ to Chinese imports and
“U.S. family tries living without China” (Yahoo News).

All I can say is that I hope we see more posts in the future. He’s no Spend Fool (but then again, who is?), but his swift style is scandalously satirical, and that’s a breath of Chicago air we all need once and again.

* All posts prior to 2012 were removed in the Spend Matters site refresh in June, 2023.